Legislature(2003 - 2004)

03/09/2004 03:07 PM House HES

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SB 285-MEDICAL ASSISTANCE COVERAGE                                                                                            
Number 0086                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
SENATE  BILL NO.  285,  "An Act  relating  to medical  assistance                                                               
coverage   for  targeted   case  management   services  and   for                                                               
rehabilitative  services  furnished  or  paid  for  by  a  school                                                               
district  on behalf  of certain  children; and  providing for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0160                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JACQUELINE  TUPOU,  Staff to  Senator  Lyda  Green, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, testified on behalf of  Senator Green, sponsor of SB
285.   She  explained  that in  Alaska  statutes case  management                                                               
[definition]  has   been  limited   to  three   specific  groups:                                                               
substance  abusers,   chronically  mentally  ill,   and  severely                                                               
emotionally disturbed children.  Ms.  Tupou told the members that                                                               
federal  Medicaid  allows  child  in  need  of  aid  (CINA)  case                                                               
management for  all groups that  the state  determines necessary.                                                               
This  bill  would expand  the  authority  to allow  for  Medicaid                                                               
billing for expanded CINA case management services, she said.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. TUPOU told the members that  the first of these services that                                                               
will be [billed  to Medicaid is] the  family preservation service                                                               
which has  been recognized in  numerous studies and surveys  as a                                                               
key tool in addressing these problems.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. TUPOU said that in  2002 legislation was passed which allowed                                                               
schools to  bill Medicaid for the  school-based Medicaid services                                                               
that are offered.   It was discovered that the  State of Alaska's                                                               
definition and  the federal definition of  rehabilitated services                                                               
does  not align.   She  explained  that there  is a  housekeeping                                                               
provision in  the bill  which would  make Alaska's  definition as                                                               
inclusive as  the federal definition.   Ms. Tupou  summarized her                                                               
comments by  saying that  it is  estimated that  this legislation                                                               
will save approximately $270,000 of general fund money in FY05.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0281                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOEL  GILBERTSON,  Commissioner,   Office  of  the  Commissioner,                                                               
Department of  Health and Social  Services, testified  in support                                                               
of SB 285, and answered questions  from the members.  He told the                                                               
members that the administration strongly  supports SB 285.  There                                                               
are two purposes  for the bill, he said.   First and foremost, it                                                               
corrects  some challenges  currently experienced  in implementing                                                               
school-based  Medicaid  in Alaska.    One  challenge is  that  in                                                               
previous statute  the definition of rehabilitative  services does                                                               
not align with the federal definition.   As a result the state is                                                               
restricted to  the portfolio  of services that  can be  billed to                                                               
Medicaid.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON  explained  that  school-based  Medicaid                                                               
services really  has to do  with the services schools  provide to                                                               
deal  with   individual  education   programs  (IEPs),   such  as                                                               
transportation services, nursing  services, some supplies, speech                                                               
therapy, occupational  therapy, and  physical therapy.   He added                                                               
that  these are  services that  the  state has  an obligation  to                                                               
provide.   This change in law  simply allows the state  to access                                                               
additional federal revenue  to provide that service  at a greater                                                               
level.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON told  the  members  that as  regulations                                                               
were  being drafted  to address  the law  which was  passed in  a                                                               
previous  session which  implemented  school-based Medicaid,  the                                                               
Department  of   Law  pointed  out   that  the   state  statutory                                                               
definition was  not linked to  federal statute.  This  bill would                                                               
make that  correction.  He  said that a  side benefit of  this is                                                               
that  it reduces  the burden  placed  on school  districts.   The                                                               
legislation  recommends that  services  by a  physician  or by  a                                                               
practitioner through  the IEP be  services that can be  billed to                                                               
Medicaid.    The  current  requirement  says  that  the  services                                                               
explicitly have to be at the prescription of the provider.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON  explained  that  the  legislation  also                                                               
addresses  targeted  case  management services.    Currently  the                                                               
targeted case  management services  are restricted by  statute to                                                               
substance abusers, chronically mentally  ill adults, and severely                                                               
emotionally disturbed  children.  A whole  population of children                                                               
that are served in the  child protection system are excluded from                                                               
targeted case  management services  as a  direct result  of their                                                               
not  fitting   into  these   three  eligibility   categories,  he                                                               
explained.    This bill  would  clear  the  way to  expand  these                                                               
services, he added.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON  told the  members  that  under the  new                                                               
statute  the department  will be  able to  provide targeted  case                                                               
management  services  to  children  in  the  Office  of  Children                                                               
Services, the  Division of Juvenile Justice,  the Infant Learning                                                               
Program,  some services  provided by  Public Health  Nursing, and                                                               
children who  are in the  education system  who have IEPs.   Some                                                               
case  management services  may  also target  tribal  groups.   He                                                               
added  that   inclusion  of  tribal  groups   also  provides  the                                                               
department  with  the  opportunity  to work  with  Native  health                                                               
corporations in rural  Alaska and to attract  100 percent federal                                                               
financing to provide services.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON said the  department firmly supports this                                                               
bill.   He told  the members  that John  Sherwood can  answer any                                                               
technical questions the members might have.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIR  WILSON asked  if she  understands correctly  that if  this                                                               
bill passes  it will be possible  for the school districts  to be                                                               
reimbursed  for some  of the  services that  are currently  being                                                               
provided.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON replied  that the  school districts  are                                                               
not reimbursed  with federal dollars.   He explained that  SB 285                                                               
does  not introduce  any new  services.   This legislation  would                                                               
simply  allow  the state  to  gain  additional reimbursement  for                                                               
obligations  that  state  government   or  school  districts  are                                                               
already bearing.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0601                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  pointed to  page 1, line  2, where  it says                                                               
"paid  for   by  a  school   district"  and   asked  Commissioner                                                               
Gilbertson if  school districts  normally pay  for rehabilitative                                                               
services from  districts' funds.   He commented that he  does not                                                               
believe that is the case.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GILBERTSON  responded  that   he  would  like  John                                                               
Sherwood to  comment on  that point.   He  told the  members that                                                               
school districts  actually do provide  funds and the  local match                                                               
requirement  for the  school-based Medicaid  services.   When Ms.                                                               
Tupou mentioned  the $270,000  savings to  the general  fund, she                                                               
was  only referring  to the  targeted case  management component.                                                               
The  additional federal  revenue  that  will be  coming  in as  a                                                               
result  of  this  legislation  will go  directly  to  the  school                                                               
districts,  he   explained.    He   summarized  that   the  total                                                               
additional  revenue that  will be  coming in  will be  about $3.5                                                               
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0664                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN SHERWOOD, Medical  Assistance Administrator, Program Review,                                                               
Office  of the  Commissioner,  Department of  Health and  Socials                                                               
Services, testified  on SB  285 and  answered questions  from the                                                               
members.   He told  the members  that Commissioner  Gilbertson is                                                               
correct.   Currently the services  that school  districts provide                                                               
to  children under  an  IEP  are required  by  federal  law.   He                                                               
commented  that there  are no  funds appropriated  to the  school                                                               
districts to  provide these services.   School districts commonly                                                               
refer to these  IEP services as "unfunded  federal mandates", Mr.                                                               
Sherwood explained.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 0711                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA said  she  supports this  bill, but  would                                                               
like some clarification on how it works.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON  explained that the Department  of Health                                                               
and Social  Services operates the  Medicaid program at  the state                                                               
level.  The department pays the  claims, but does not provide the                                                               
bulk of  the services through  the department.  The  services are                                                               
largely delivered by  the school districts or  by contractors who                                                               
work for the school districts  in providing the services required                                                               
by  the children's  IEPs  and special  needs  services, he  said.                                                               
Commissioner Gilbertson  stated that the department  is trying to                                                               
assist  districts by  providing reimbursement  for these  federal                                                               
mandates through a Medicaid financing mechanism.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0809                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  asked for clarification of  the language on                                                               
page 1,  line 2, where it  says "paid for by  a school district."                                                               
He asked if that reflects a  situation whereby a student has such                                                               
needs that the school district  has no personnel that can satisfy                                                               
the requirements  so the district  must contract with  someone to                                                               
provide the services.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON replied that is  correct.  He pointed out                                                               
that  most  transportation  services  for  school  districts  are                                                               
handled  by   contract.    This   legislation  would   allow  for                                                               
reimbursement for  those services through Medicaid  by correcting                                                               
the  definition  to  link with  federal  rehabilitation  services                                                               
definition, he  reiterated.  He noted  that school-based Medicaid                                                               
was established  by a  previous legislature  and this  bill would                                                               
help the department to implement it.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 0888                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON asked  if  a  small school  system  that could  not                                                               
afford  to  hire  a  full   time  speech  therapist  or  physical                                                               
therapist entered into a contract  to provide the services, would                                                               
the school district be reimbursed.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER GILBERTSON replied that  if the service was Medicaid                                                               
eligible, it would be reimbursed.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 0921                                                                                                                     
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  moved to  report SB 285,  23-LS1530\D, out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying fiscal notes.  There  being no objection, SB 285 was                                                               
reported  out  of House  Health,  Education  and Social  Services                                                               
Standing Committee.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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